tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9762062.post4946202227848346501..comments2023-09-28T11:04:39.657-04:00Comments on Called As Seen: William J. Murray tries to pull the woll over people's eyes...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9762062.post-28106826936905774472008-04-17T00:53:00.000-04:002008-04-17T00:53:00.000-04:00Harold, assuming your quotes are accurate, no ques...Harold, assuming your quotes are accurate, no question you've got some of those folks dead to rights making comments obviously critical of the Church.<BR/><BR/>However...<BR/><BR/>1. You falsely attributed to Matt Barber a comment made in fact by the LDS convert, as reported -- if you read carefully -- at the very link you yourself provided.<BR/><BR/>2. Where's any quote by Gary Glenn saying anything negative about the Church? All your link shows is that Glenn urged Huckabee supporters not to call or distribute literature at churches (LDS included) which polls showed were supporting Gov. Romney. That's kind of a no-brainer if you're trying to turn out Huck vote, but it doesn't make somebody anti-Mormon. Unless you've got more evidence than that.<BR/><BR/>3. Similarly, what's "anti-Mormon" about what Linda Harvey said? It's obviously anti-Romney, but are you seriously suggesting that not supporting Gov. Romney is = being anti-Mormon? I know about half a dozen members of the Church who didn't vote for Gov. Romney. One I know even voted for Huckabee!<BR/><BR/>4. Likewise with Peter LaBarbara's simply factual citation about the Deseret News and KSL-TV endorsing Utah's "hate crime" bill a few years back, which stirred up a big controversy in the valley. Church HQ was even quoted as slamming the head of Utah Eagle Forum who herself is a a prominent member of the Church. It wasn't pretty, and the bill failed. But what's "anti-Mormon" about simply stating a reported and truthful fact, as LaBarbara did? Are media outlets that at the time reported the exact same thing you attribute to LaBarbara also "anti-Mormon" because they simply reported the news?<BR/><BR/>5. And likewise, maybe, with the quote you attribute to Ted Baehr. I haven't seen the film he's talking about, so I don't know if President Brigham Young said something about blood atonement or not. But if what Baehr said is true, then what's "anti-Mormon" about him accurately stating that's the case and expressing his opinion that a Hollywood movie about the Church might have political implications for Gov. Romney's campaign. Is is not obvious that discussion of Gov. Romney's faith has indeed had political implications for his campaign?<BR/><BR/>No doubt whatsoever that some of those signers are clearly anti-Mormon. But my point is, in your zeal to indict all with the signers with the same broad brush, you should have taken greater care not to be guilty of the same reaching of which you accuse them.<BR/><BR/>The obvious stretches to which you yourself resorted (in my opinion) call into question whether you accurately quote the others for whom you don't provide live links.<BR/><BR/>But if your quotes on the others are in fact accurate, it certainly proves that SOME of the signers are hostile not just to Gov. Romney but to the Church itself.Giterdonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00383338868061857937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9762062.post-49592682503129326102008-04-08T11:36:00.000-04:002008-04-08T11:36:00.000-04:00Mitt is not a Creedal Christian. However, he does...Mitt is not a Creedal Christian. However, he does believe in the Jesus Christ of the New Testament:<BR/>The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is often accused by Evangelical pastors of not believing in Christ and, therefore, not being a Christian religion. This article http://mormonsarechristian.blogspot.com/ helps to clarify such misconceptions by examining early Christianity's comprehension of baptism, the Godhead, the deity of Jesus Christ and His Atonement. <BR/><BR/>The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) adheres more closely to First Century Christianity and the New Testament than any other denomination. For example, Harper’s Bible Dictionary entry on the Trinity says “the formal doctrine of the Trinity as it was defined by the great church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries is not to be found in the New Testament.” <BR/><BR/><BR/>One Baptist blogger stated “99 percent of the members of his Baptist church believe in the Mormon (and Early Christian) view of the Trinity. It is the preachers who insist on the Nicene Creed definition.” It seems to me the reason the pastors denigrate the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is to protect their flock (and their livelihood). <BR/> <BR/>Evangelicals should read:<BR/>http://brucewilson.blogspot.com/2008/01/unintended-consequences-of-vote-for.htmlMormons Are Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12665992248493805022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9762062.post-18377517363456973232008-04-07T19:43:00.000-04:002008-04-07T19:43:00.000-04:00That letter isn't what evangelicals should be outr...That letter isn't what evangelicals should be outraged about, it is how evangelicals have themselves acted in this election that they should be rightfully humiliated.<BR/><BR/>Understand that our country's biggest priorities are not abortion or Homo's getting "married". They can not be quick-fixed with Constitutional Amendments nor should they be tried according to our founding fathers design of government. Federalism is the path we were instructed to follow and knowing you're as blind as bats following pandering con artists who are willing to tell you anything just to get your ignorant votes is ALL on you...wake up and smell what you're shoveling!<BR/><BR/>By any measure of sanity or basic common sense you people should KNOW these things, WHY do you not!?<BR/><BR/>LEARN and then demonstrate you're capable of your own governance;<BR/><BR/>How the Republican Party Committed National Suicide By JB Williams<BR/>http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19227.shtml<BR/> <BR/>Who Hijacked the Primaries? by Brett Winterble <BR/>http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24726<BR/> <BR/>The Death of Conservatism? 43 Mistakes and the GOP's Dobson's Choice<BR/>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961546/posts<BR/> <BR/>GOP Leads Astray<BR/>http://gopleadsastray.blogspot.com/Winghunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14340380277806513471noreply@blogger.com